Podcast

Building Trust in AI: Governance that Empowers featuring Dirce Hernandez

In this episode of Do Human Work, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Dirce Hernandez, Sr. Cybersecurity GRC Manager and adjunct professor, to demystify AI governance beyond the buzzwords. From defining governance in plain language to setting practical guardrails like policies, steering groups, and human-in-the-loop reviews, Dirce shares how organizations can innovate without risking shadow AI, data leakage, or checkbox compliance.

He also digs into higher ed’s adoption curve, how explainability is becoming non-negotiable with regulators, and why leadership buy-in beats tool sprawl. Plus: actionable career advice for students and pros alike, evolving certifications (CCSK and beyond), and how AI can supercharge upskilling paths without replacing human judgment.

Lior Div

CEO & Co-Founder, 7AI

Nathan Burke

Chief Marketing Officer, 7AI

Dirce Hernandez

Sr. Cybersecurity GRC Manager and Adjunct Professor

Impactful Moments

00:00 – Defining real AI governance
02:15 – Why tech alone can’t solve it
05:30 – Guardrails begin with clear policy
07:05 – The role of human-in-the-loop
09:40 – Explainability meets regulation
12:50 – Leadership buy-in before implementation
15:10 – Building trust beyond checkbox compliance
18:00 – Mentoring to close the talent gap
19:20 – AI accelerating upskilling in cybersecurity
26:10 – Certifications and GRC evolve for the AI era

Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com