Rethinking Risk: How AI Reshapes Cybersecurity with Gavin Grisamore

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What if AI could eliminate burnout instead of just speeding things up? Gavin Grisamore, CISO at Lead Bank, joins Nate Burke and Lior Div to reimagine the future of cybersecurity, one where AI agents reduce toil, reshape SOC structures, and elevate human creativity.


In this episode, Gavin shares what it really means to manage risk in an AI-driven environment. From rethinking alert fatigue and L1/L2 roles to challenging sunk cost fallacies and shifting defensive strategies, the trio explores how AI is not just another tool, but a transformation. Whether you’re leading a team or navigating boardroom AI pressure, this conversation will challenge your assumptions about what’s next.

Lior Div, CEO & Co-Founder, 7AI

Lior Div

CEO & Co-Founder, 7AI
Nathan Burke, Chief Marketing Officer, 7AI

Nathan Burke

Chief Marketing Officer, 7AI
Gavin Grisamore, CISO, Lead Bank

Gavin Grisamore

CISO, Lead Bank

Impactful Moments:

00:00 – Introduction

00:53 – The value of leisure in cybersecurity

03:25 – AI’s role in risk management

05:15 – Rethinking security with AI agents

09:00 – Evolution of alerting structures in SOCs

11:14 – The fast and furious future of attacks

15:30 – Sunk cost fallacy in technology

20:31 – Future team dynamics in cybersecurity

23:30 – Transformation of threat intelligence

26:55 – Balancing human creativity with AI capabilities