Cooking with CISOs: Benjamin Dulieu, CISO & CIO of Duck Creek Technologies
In this episode of Cooking with CISOs, we're joined by two leaders who both served before they secured:
Benjamin Dulieu, CIO and CISO of Duck Creek Technologies, in the Marine Corps, and Lior Div, CEO and Co-Founder of 7AI, who served in Israel's 8200 unit.
And that shared background shows up in how they think about pressure, mission, and what it actually means to lead.
Here's what we got into over wine, butter, bone-in chicken, and a little bit of spice:
Benjamin Dulieu, CIO and CISO of Duck Creek Technologies, in the Marine Corps, and Lior Div, CEO and Co-Founder of 7AI, who served in Israel's 8200 unit.
And that shared background shows up in how they think about pressure, mission, and what it actually means to lead.
Here's what we got into over wine, butter, bone-in chicken, and a little bit of spice:
- The AI inflection point CISOs can't ignore. The experimental phase is over. ROI is now table stakes.
- Why "AI equals risk" is an outdated mindset. Yes, there's risk. But the opportunity far outweighs it.
- Partnership vs. vendor relationship. Lior and Ben don't operate like buyer and seller. They text. They build together. That's the difference between transactional and transformational.
- "Shifting up" instead of replacing. 7AI's philosophy is about reskilling them faster. L1 analysts don't need three years in the trenches anymore. They can become hunters and incident responders in months.
- How to handle pressure as a leader. Ben's word: irreverence. Perspective. When you've been in situations where lives were actually on the line, a board presentation doesn't hit the same way.