Podcast

Cyber Leadership without the Ego featuring Olivia Phillips

Most cybersecurity conversations obsess over tools, threats, and tech. But what if the real evolution is happening in the human layer, a shift most in the industry aren’t used to seeing?

In this episode, BISO and industry voice Olivia Phillips joins Nate and Lior to redefine what effective security leadership looks like in the age of AI. Olivia shares insights from behavioral science, organizational psychology, and decades of cyber experience, revealing why influence without authority, real transparency, and emotional intelligence are now core cybersecurity capabilities. She also discusses the future impact of quantum, the shift toward value-driven security investments, and why trust is earned, not given.

Lior Div

CEO & Co-Founder, 7AI

Nathan Burke

Chief Marketing Officer, 7AI

Olivia Phillips

BISO

Impactful Moments:

00:00 — Introduction

01:00 — What is a BISO

03:00 — AI, quantum, and the next era

05:30 — Building influence without authority

09:00 — Security ROI: “Show me the value”

11:00 — Ego, communication, and human dynamics

14:00 — Trust: hard to earn, easy to lose

17:00 — How real AI adoption happens

22:00 — If Olivia got 25% of her time back

29:00 — Transparency, feedback, and leadership growth

34:00 — Chaos, creativity, and the “cyber misfit” mindset

Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com